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Those Calling For Structures Are Detached From Reality, Says Chamisa

Those Calling For Structures Are Detached From Reality, Says Chamisa

CCC leader Nelson Chamisa said the clamour by some critics for the party to have formal structures before the 2023 elections has nothing to do with the citizens’ agenda and therefore a non-issue.

Speaking in an interview with The NewsHawks recently, Chamisa said CCC is introducing a new brand of politics that puts citizens first. He said:

It is a dead issue, a non-issue really. We are introducing fresh politics and new culture and, of course, it will have a new structure carrying within it new strategies.

Those who believe in old ways will get lost in locating the new us.

The new is centred around the citizens. This is not from the ordinary citizens, but from other quarters and those quarters are detached from reality and those quarters are detached from citizen struggles.

… I don’t have a political party, l lead a movement of the citizens. In my leadership of the citizen movement, we are not panicking but concerned. We will be able to deal with these issues.

Some political commentators say CCC should have solid structures for it to seriously compete with ZANU PF and also show that it is ready to govern.

Self-exiled former ZANU PF politburo member Jonathan Moyo has been one of the most vocal proponents of structures and has suggested that CCC should be banned from contesting elections if it doesn’t have formal structures.

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52 Comments

bongo 3 weeks ago

Johnson ngaafome yake. I suggest he names it JJJ and create structure s.


Jojo Zvenyika Chenjera 3 weeks ago

Your comments & analysis apply to a normal situation in a country where the sitting regime is ably led by sane individuals. Your remarks make good reading yet we living in abnormal scenario. The Zanu Pf scenario is totally absurd & what Chamisa & the Citizens are doing is exactly what we did to win the liberation struggle against a more sophisticated foe like the Rhodesian Front. Keep them guessing. If u let yourself in the public domain you risk infiltration. Notwithstanding your sentiments we will keep Zanu guessing & hit them on the counterattack. Zvako zvauri kutaura zve defence forces and the national presidency applies to a normal environment & that easily tailor makes itself taapo. The war we are fighting is a hit & run guerrilla way. Hondo yezvimbambaira nema grenades. Kana tahwina we will then invite your learned self to come and put structures et Al. Parizvino smile and forget. The Citizens are excitedly behind whoever is leading in the front against Zanu Pf thuggery.

Machiavelli 3 weeks ago

@Worzell, this Machiavelli is NOT on Twitter.
I value my privacy

Worzell Gummidge 3 weeks ago

@Machiavelli. I aso have great admiration for your ideological lucidity. For the record, I am an ardent CCC supporter & I was a student activist & human rights activist. However, I will not overlook wrongdoings by my kith & kin. I'm a maverick, I point out anomalies. Someone has to do that. I'm assuming your are the same Machiavelli on Twitter. I like your posts. Anyway, please cogitate on the questions that I posit and lets share opinions.

mutsa 3 weeks ago

kana zvakurwadza enda ku zanu kune ma structure

Yoweeeeee 3 weeks ago

U sound jingoistic. An alarmist. Let me simplify your concern which apparently appears disingenuous. We the people of Zimbabwe alias Citizens are not losing any sleep over the issue of structure inter Alia. We are all harmoniously united to get rid of Zanu and it's acolytes. Whether that arises out of a structureless party or grouping is not in our interest. In fact what u are talking about zvema organograms is hypothetical precise. But hatizvidi. In Chipinge the Citizens did not need those structures to wrestle the victory. In Kariba your Zanu structures distributed sweets and lost to an amorphous party. In 2023 we not listening to your educated philosophies despite their glitter we leaving our homes to vote for Change. Iwe ita mastructures Ako ikoko kuZanu nemaCIO enyu mosiya isu ma**** toita Zvedu toga. Inga Makati vana vadiki vanodyiwa nevene vavo. Makadyazve Suzan!

Machiavelli 3 weeks ago

@Worzell, much as I admire you, I have to disagree with you on this one. When the MDC Alliance contested the 2018 elections it was an amalgam of political parties. Similarly when CCC contested the March 26 and subsequent by-elections it has done so as a COALITION. Please consult your dictionary about that definition. You get answer.

Worzell Gummidge 3 weeks ago

If the citizens are at the centre, then why is one man making all the decisions without the citizens' input? Even those people calling for structures are citizens. So why are those citizens being attacked for calling for a formalised organisation with a clear organogram of elected leaders?

When the CCC registered with ZEC early this year, it registered as a political party. Now Chamisa says he is not leading a political party but a Movement of Citizens. What is the CCC? A Movement or a political party? Which citizens agreed to make the CCC a movement?

One notices chameleonic tendencies here. So citizens are only good for voting & attending CCC rallies but are not good for taking positions in leadership structures?

So Chamisa is afraid of being infiltrated but he wants to be the Commander In Chief of the defence forces? How is he going to work with the security sector - the army, the police, the state intelligence & prison services? is he going to fire them all in their hundreds of thousands & work alone? Members of the security sector are citizens too.

Chamisa says he wants to be a National President & not a party President? Being a National President means working with Zanu PF & every other person or organisation that he differs with. So, will he not be infiltrated then? How will he work with everyone after he wins, when he cant work with everyone now?

In conclusion. Chamisa seems to be disingenuous or he just doesnt think things through. It appears he has no solid strategy apart from hoisting himself to the Presidency by using blind citizens who have no place or say in his plans. Strategy requires consistency for it to work. Not this flip flopping.

WILLIAM SONBOY CHINEMBIRI 3 weeks ago

This useless boy. How can you dismiss muzvinafundo Moyo? Is he not the one who gave you the idea for the name of your party? You are so structureless that your party does not even have an address.

[MOTA YE BULLETPROOF IRIPI]

Ndini Wenyu
William Sonboy Chinembiri
(Bush Lawyer)


Gin 3 weeks ago

We dnt care about structures. We want what we want. With or without structures. Chinembiri mdidwakho logogo wakho u Prof Moyo

WILLIAM SONBOY CHINEMBIRI 3 weeks ago

Prof did name the CCC do not take that away from him

Machiavelli 3 weeks ago

@William..... (fake) let me answer you I specifics:-

1. If Jonathan Moyo is so highly regarded why is he in exile? Because akabhejera bhiza rine mimba. Poor foresight and poor judgement.

2. Who said Jonathan Moyo coined CCC? You are giving him credit that's no due to him.

3. If you don't know the address of CCC, then you are not supposed to know. You are not part of it. You want to infiltrate/destabilise the movement. So it's best that you are kept ignorant of that.

4. Structures, structures, structures.... kana majaira maCell, Districts (DCC - Daddy Chakati Chapera), Provinces, Youth Wing, Women's, Main wing etc. garai makadaro. One final question:- How can you have a structure for a Coalition?

ABC 3 weeks ago

structures are needed for accountability . Voting into power a party isina ma structure is risky


uncle 263 3 weeks ago

like an Afghan Taliban👍

Kule Dhambi 3 weeks ago

Im sure you can pardon our conviction in the "structureless" citizens' movement bcz after 43yrs dzekufamba nechi nhembes**** its evident that structures are hogwash

Chikws 3 weeks ago

Chamisa is becoming a dictator.A vibrant political party requires proper structures.


uncle 263 3 weeks ago

wat are proper structures?
hev they worked b4?

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Worzell Gummidge 3 weeks ago

If the citizens are at the centre, then why is one man making all the decisions without the citizens' input? Even those people calling for structures are citizens. So why are those citizens being attacked for calling for a formalised organisation with a clear organogram of elected leaders?

When the CCC registered with ZEC early this year, it registered as a political party. Now Chamisa says he is not leading a political party but a Movement of Citizens. What is the CCC? A Movement or a political party? Which citizens agreed to make the CCC a movement?

One notices chameleonic tendencies here. So citizens are only good for voting & attending CCC rallies but are not good for taking positions in leadership structures?

So Chamisa is afraid of being infiltrated but he wants to be the Commander In Chief of the defence forces? How is he going to work with the security sector - the army, the police, the state intelligence & prison services? is he going to fire them all in their hundreds of thousands & work alone? Members of the security sector are citizens too.

Chamisa says he wants to be a National President & not a party President? Being a National President means working with Zanu PF & every other person or organisation that he differs with. So, will he not be infiltrated then? How will he work with everyone after he wins, when he cant work with everyone now?

In conclusion. Chamisa seems to be disingenuous or he just doesnt think things through. It appears he has no solid strategy apart from hoisting himself to the Presidency by using blind citizens who have no place or say in his plans. Strategy requires consistency for it to work. Not this flip flopping.


fatso 3 weeks ago

we the real citizens we are not complaining and and all of you who are trying to pork holes you are the detarched ones whom Chamisa is talking of and remember we are not going to be deterred by your silly analysises

uncle 263 3 weeks ago

old politics...NONSENSE🚮🚮🚮

True Blackman 3 weeks ago

Those that want structures are free to do theirs in their homes,,,, even vamwe vakadzi vamunogara navo havana mastructures wani,,,, day in day out same story ah


Axe killer 3 weeks ago

Taura hako shaz kkkk

Dear @worzell gummidge 3 weeks ago

you are lost too
you are hardly locating the new us
shcrutinize,study the enemy and make the right strategy to avoid defeat.


Greyhora 3 weeks ago

Revealed @ Worzell gummidge is actually Jonathan Moyo an infiltrator a spook to be precise.Takubata mucoreshow une dova waznzwa

MDCCC 3 weeks ago

Nomination of candidates for the 2023 elections are going to be chaotic.The bottom line is that Chamisa is not comfortable with long serving members- ndoo panenyaya.He wants to create opportunities for his close friends ana Mahere, Ruhanya, Freeman, Hopewell etc


Mwana waMambo 3 weeks ago

Worzell musoro bhangu. Ita mastructure kuden kwako. ****


*** 3 weeks ago

Musatinyangadza mastructure eyiko, if structures was made to fix the economy dai tisingachemi nezanu...we need some1 who has got the vision, some1 who is ideal, one with better policies and trustworth to deliver ths country frm ths bondage. zanu zvaine mastructures ir kutibatsra nei...we need change not structures


Ginious 3 weeks ago

Nyika yaurawa nevanemastructure iyi.regai timboedza vasina mastructure.Mastructure auraya nyika


VYBZ KARTEL 3 weeks ago

It is not and it cannot be in the public interest to have a secret society masquerading as a political party, to contest elections for public office. That is just wrong and it has no precedence anywhere in the world.


Dzakutsaku 3 weeks ago

It's a secret to those who refuse to open their eyes to see

Machiavelli 3 weeks ago

MDC Alliance did it in 2018.
Patriotic Front did it in 1980.

I wish I could give you my inbox for more examples my dear nemesis @VYBZ Ketero

Politics without borders 3 weeks ago

Having a structureless party will make it easy for Chamisa to slot his friends into leadership positions. The likes of Mahere, Ruhanya, Freeman, Hopewell etc


Machiavelli 3 weeks ago

So what?
Which election did Gouveia Muputukezi win to be elected as Second Secretary in ZANU?
Which election did he win to be VP?

Let's not have situations where the pot calls the kettle black.

Leave a Comment 3 weeks ago

Mahere ****ually abused me.

I will spill the beans tmro on Twitter & Facebook, how she took my virginity l had banked for my future wife.


Leave a Comment 3 weeks ago

Mahere ****ually abused me.

I will spill the beans tmro on Twitter & Facebook, how she took my virginity l had banked for my future wife.


chahototo 3 weeks ago

The leader of the cult secret society CCC is now evolving into a dictator.

2023 Ed pfeeeee


Zuze 3 weeks ago

Ehe, Chamisa kana akaita Dictator, ndewedu.
Handiti imi veZANU mune venyu kubvira kuna Bhobho kusvika nhasi?

Crocodile 3 weeks ago

@Chahototo inga Mugabe makangomubvisa wani Zanupf yanga ine mastructures wani ne coup wani hazvishande zve mastructure amunoda kudzidzisa vanhu imi matadza kutonga munawo wani


Madhumo Chisendeke 3 weeks ago

Nyaya yemastructures is the very issue that makes the backbone of Musengezi's lawsuit against your rapist Sekuru. Why do you need them for CCC when you're failing to follow yours. Nxaa

Maparamuro 3 weeks ago

JOC makes decisions for zanupf not the citizens therefore structures in zanupf are not functional and are useless. The end result is the zanupf dictatorship that we are crying about.

Chamisa is copying zanupf and his blind praise and worship followers don't see it. A people's movement is based on structures, people's decisions are made in structures, society is based on structures. Structures are a means by which leaders communicate with the masses. The wards are societal structures so are the constituencies and these structures help in the governance process. Chamisa says no structures so how are the leaders chosen, how will the masses participate in the selection and election processes.
One cannot avoid infiltration as long as they participate in politics unless they are advocating for a one party state. In politics you infiltrate your opponent gather as much intelligence against them and use it to plot their downfall. If chamisa is not ready to be infiltrated and infiltrate his opponents he should just stick to the Bible but even the Bible is full of stories of infiltration. Samson the strongest man, Solomon the wisest man were infiltrated.

Wake up chamisa. wake up citizens, this chamisa is showing tendencies of the worst dictators


Zuze 3 weeks ago

Kana mukaisa dhongi rakapfeka Yero, tinorivhotera. Taneta nembavha

Maparamuro 3 weeks ago

Chamisa is asking for six million voters in 2023, 2018 he got 2.2mln. This structureless system he is proposing is going to cost him big time. People need clarity on the organisation that will lead them, they need to know how they will choose their representatives and how they representatives will be organised to work in tackling their problems, they need to know how they will participate in their own governance and development of their communities.
Zanupf is not going to guess because it's already there in CCC, it's the citizens that are in the dark. Vamwe varikuzvinyepera pano kuti vanoziva and yet they are in complete darkness about what methods will be applied to elect leadership at all levels.
People in CCC leadership are scared of competition hence they can't have elections now


Mafirakureva 3 weeks ago

VaMaparamuro, zivai zveZANU. Marongerwo eCCC hamunei nawo. Dai muri kutofara kuti CCC zvaisina mapazi haihwinhe. Chete

Zvino structures or no structures kwese kwairi kukwikwidza iri kuhwinha. Saka pane zvairi kugona. Siyanai nekurongeka kana kusarongeka kwebato re CCC.

chahototo 3 weeks ago

nyika yeduyauraiwa nepolitics let's unite to built our nation cz chinobuda hapana kana tinemaoero akasiyana


Machiavelli 3 weeks ago

Agreed, but united under whose leadership?
Certainly not under the corrupt, clueless and myopic ZANU leadership that has overseen the collapse of this once beautiful country over the past 43 years

WILLIAM SONBOY CHINEMBIRI 3 weeks ago

If a political party participated in elections and win those elections without structures why should the proxies of other parties impose the need for structures ?

If you followed politics intently, you should have discovered that all internal political strives are born and bred in structures. Factionalism is born and bred in structures.

CCC has party structures from the level ot the province. This is why CCC has no factionalism problems.

Other political parties must not organise structures of other political parties. They must mind their businesses.

I told Muzvinafundo Jonathan Moyo that he must visit the statutes and find out that structures are part of the law. He has not come back. He is still examining the law. As far as I know a political party forms and builds itself in the way which leads it win elections.

Those who want political parties to have structures, they must persuade POLAD and or parliament to make reforms which includes the requirement of party structures.

[ DO NOT TRY TO RUN OTHER PARTIES THRIUGH PROXIES LIKE PROFESSOR JONATHAN MOYO ]

[ APA PAVA KUTODIWA VANA NELSON CHAMISA APA ]

[ VOTE CCC FOR REAL CHANGE]

Yours sincerely
William Sonboy CHINEMBIRI
[ THE BUSH LAWYER ]


WILLIAM SONBOY CHINEMBIRI 3 weeks ago

If a political party participated in elections and win those elections without structures why should the proxies of other parties impose the need for structures ?

If you followed politics intently, you should have discovered that all internal political strives are born and bred in structures. Factionalism is born and bred in structures.

CCC has party structures from the level ot the province. This is why CCC has no factionalism problems.

Other political parties must not organise structures of other political parties. They must mind their businesses.

I told Muzvinafundo Jonathan Moyo that he must visit the statutes and find out that structures are part of the law. He has not come back. He is still examining the law. As far as I know a political party forms and builds itself in the way which leads it win elections.

Those who want political parties to have structures, they must persuade POLAD and or parliament to make reforms which includes the requirement of party structures.

[ DO NOT TRY TO RUN OTHER PARTIES THRIUGH PROXIES LIKE PROFESSOR JONATHAN MOYO ]

[ APA PAVA KUTODIWA VANA NELSON CHAMISA APA ]

[ VOTE CCC FOR REAL CHANGE]

Yours sincerely
William Sonboy CHINEMBIRI
[ THE BUSH LAWYER ]


Jah🇿🇼Tsvsrie-07 3 weeks ago

Chashamisa Chaita Chamisa i CCC 😂


Original MDCCC- Pamavambo 3 weeks ago

The issue is that Chamisa is not comfortable with long serving members. The structures in the former MDC-A were controlled by Mwonzora.


Zuze 3 weeks ago

Vakuru kana musingazive n****ondo garai pasi.
Nzvonyora haana kumbobvira abata chigaro muMDC Alliance. He lost to Charlton Hwende for the Secretary General post. Shortly thereafter he joined MDC-T under ThoCCCozani Khupe.

Nzvonyora only claimed MDC Alliance name just before the March 26 by-elections

machakata 3 weeks ago

ko haisi kudownloder pendula up yacho



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