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Guns Seized During 2017 Coup Now Being Used In Armed Robberies, Ex-Minister Allege

Guns Seized During 2017 Coup Now Being Used In Armed Robberies, Ex-Minister Allege

Exiled former Deputy Higher and Tertiary Education minister Godfrey Gandawa has suggested that guns that were illegally seized from the police and intelligence services during the November 2017 military coup that overthrew the then president Robert Mugabe are now being used to commit armed robberies.

In a post on Twitter, Gandawa claimed that the guns were seized without documentation and it is unclear if they were returned to State custody. Pindula News is publishing Gandawa’s Twitter thread below:

The seemingly sudden wave of armed robberies involving members of the defence forces is linked to the chaotic, unlawful and dangerous takeover of armouries during the 2017 coup where the police and intelligence services were disarmed without a formal handover-takeover process. 1/

During the coup, every level of security perceived as hostile to the coup-makers was disarmed with weapons taken from lawful possession even at traffic stops. This chaotic process included no documentation. It is unclear that these weapons were returned to state custody. 2/

Indeed, given the fluid situation and the fear of a counterattack that was prevailing at the time, it appears unlikely they would have readily surrendered the weapons to a central authority that could fall out of their control. 3/

A new status quo now prevails in which an unknown quantity of weapons are in the possession of criminal elements linked to the security forces. These weapons add a new dimension to Zimbabwe’s security situation and are possibly outside Mnangagwa’s control. 4/

This is a real possibility for the simple reason that many lower-level coup co-conspirators are yet to be paid for their service. There is growing bitterness within the armed forces over unfulfilled coup promises while the top ranks enjoy the fat of the new dispensation. 5/

Govt cannot dismiss these armed robbers as rogue soldiers given the repeated pattern of military personnel involvement. It is clear that there is a new source of insecurity linked to the army and this requires an honest and meaningful response from govt. /6

In any case, the rogue soldier argument is disproven by the actions of the military subsequent to the killing of these armed robbers. You cannot claim a soldier has gone rogue and yet bury him with military honours following his death at a crime scene. 7/

It is futile for govt to discourage the public from holding large sums of money. Nobody in their right mind wants the risk of carrying large sums of cash; the practice has arisen due to the collapse of confidence in the banking system post the 2017 coup. /8

The bogus foreign currency auction rate is theft by administrative fiat and no amount of persuasion will convince the public to deposit funds into a banking system that forcibly liquidates up to 40% of hard currency at that rate. The public is in an impossible position. /9

The same is true of cross-border traders robbed on their way to South Africa. Most will be carrying cash. Mnangagwa, Mangudya and Mthuli have had four years to fix the central issue of confidence: they have failed as demonstrated by widespread banking hesitancy. /10

The banking solution is simple enough: stop stealing from the public by means of the official exchange rate. The problem of military personnel involved in armed robberies cannot be solved without admitting to its existence. For now, govt believes there is no problem. /11

That these interlinked problems have not aroused alarm in govt is yet another sign that Mnangagwa has no real interest in governance, merely its trappings. His is a govt of thugs intent on plundering public resources; they have no aspiration to improve people’s lives. 12/

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26 Comments

Conquring. 7 months ago

Ndovanhu vataiomberera maoko kuchikoro manje ava kusvika maoko orwadza. THOSE ARE FACTS FORMER MINISTER YU HAVE PROVEN KUTI WAKADZIDZA ZVAMANDOROKWATI CHAIZVO👊👊👊👊👊👊👊👊👊👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏


ITAI ZVAMANGAMUCHINGOITA 7 months ago

Taura hako hes speaking facts

Timbers 7 months ago

Very true indeed


Shadows 7 months ago

Thats an obvious opinion from a disgruntled ex minister. Zvawaive minister wakaiteiko iwe chatakaona kuratidza kti wakadzidza. Wakugona kungowawata zvisina humbowo. .. Hw many guns were seized? Who seized the guns? What type of guns were seized? And wht type of guns are being used by these robbers? Answers. Msangowawata zvisina maturo. Three years pfuti dzakachengetwa chete


Tigu 7 months ago

As much as people hate you on this platform.i actually think you myt have a point. On duty soldiers and zrp's are committing most of these crimes with guns issued in their workplaces.lets not blame the coup for the increase in gun violence. Mnangagwa is no leader,has no leadership qualities whatsoever.what he is😶 is a dummy president who has people dictating his every move and word. He won't be able to control these soldiers he lacks a spine.And please dont get me started on the minister of defense, a useless placeholder operating on the word of Chiwengwa, no wonder she hasn't given a statement yet

ITAI ZVAMANGAMUCHINGOITA 7 months ago

Ana shadow talk sense uri munhu mukuru

Peer 7 months ago

Iwe shadows unongowawata zvisina basa asi unobhadharwa nezanu siya chokwadi chitaurwe zvekuti zvataurwa Nani zvine basa rei basa rekunanzva vamwe varume kumagaro unoita basa rekusupporter mbavha idzi dzichiuraya nyika wakadhakwa brain useless iwe zvirikuitika hauzvione


Gidza 7 months ago

Kunyangwe uchisevenzesa pseudonym yekuti "Shadows", whoever you are waudzwa zvauri. Nyarawo, kana usinganyari ratidza mhuri yako kuti ndozvauri kuitwa nevamwe varume, vanyatsoziva zvauri.

Sir 7 months ago

😂😂😂😂😂😂iii

ITAI ZVAMANGAMUCHINGOITA 7 months ago

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Kakistocracy 🤣 Muchakaka 7 months ago

Haaaaa Gandawa wataura chokwadi hako iwe. Havanei neKUKAKA kwemaZimbabweans vanhu ava. Almost everyone in Zimbabwe is disgruntled and security personnel are expressing it this way because of the weapons they have access to. Chibvute bvute chakaitwa pfuti chokonzeresa now. Ava zvekuti ruzhinji ruri kurarama sei havanei nazvo.


Doroguru 7 months ago

Haurevi nhema Gody. Haaa wazuwha mhani 👏👏👏


Sibahle 7 months ago

@shadow....brain 🧠 dzako dzkazara gwirikwiti chete. Dai uripadhuze ndaikumamisa chete nxaaa mhani . Unongopikisa zvekumama chete .


Sibahle 7 months ago

@shadow....brain 🧠 dzako dzkazara gwirikwiti chete. Dai uripadhuze ndaikumamisa chete nxaaa mhani . Unongopikisa zvekumama chete .nxaaaaaa


Jutas 7 months ago

Ichokwadi chataurwa na minister Gody ichocho


Shadows 7 months ago

@madala, gidza,peer. Zvinongoratidza zvamuri kti murimbwa hamuna kurairwa. This is a public platform, nyarawo kutaura zvinyadzo. Plus zim is free. Ndnotaura kna kuita zvandinoda. Hamudi chokwadi. Mnorarama nefungidziro makaora. Chupet. Handinanzvi umwe mnhu, ndini ndnotonanzva kna wanga usingandizive. Shanda hama, gone are the days dzekupiwa mana nezvihuta. U will die cry babies


Brixx 7 months ago

Pataurwa point apa, inobata mukoma wedu shadows I think mangwana achange atendeuka kana kuchinja Zita

Nick 7 months ago

Kna rikangotaura chte mubpe apa 0775901890

Nick 7 months ago

Ranyarar zimunhu riya vanhu @shadows

Nick 7 months ago

Shadows zirombe risinganyari neurombe hwaro nxaaa uri datya iwe . Monday to Friday always on pindula posting nonsense ..ndoda kukudzikamisa zvko .this is my last warning..wakapusa strek

Brian t 7 months ago

Kiti Shadows zirombe rino supporter ZANU risina kna buddle re twitter ,Dai une mari uchinyangadza pano pa platform yefree . ukuda kut tifunge kut uku supporter ZANU bcz yu are living a gud life àaaa kup , hauna kna chaunacho iwe rombe rakapusa .Dai une WiFi uchiswera pano pa pindula hre . Minister chaiye ariku benefiter thru corruption haana nguva yekunyangadza pano kunze kwako rombe kubuda tsinga kubudira vamwe vanhu vakaita sewe kut vadye iwe uchiswera pa pindula kbasa hauendi

WILLIAM SONBOY CHINEMBIRI 7 months ago

FORMER DEPUTY MINISTER OF HIGHER AND TERTIARY EDUCATION, GODFREY MOYO, MY HOMEBOY TOO FROM HURUNGWE DISTRICT, HAS WADED INTO THE CAUSES OF THE SPIKE IN ARMED ROBBERIES.

WE HAVE A PUZZLE OF THE SPIKE OF ARMED ROBBERIES AND DOCTOR GODFREY GANDAWA HAS JUST GIVEN US WHERE HE THINKS THESE GUNS ARE COMING FROM.

GODFREY GANDAWA HAS JUST GIVEN THE PUBLIC HIS OPINION AND IT IS LAWFUL TO DO SO. IT IS UPTO THOSE PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE STATE SECURITY TO GO THROUGH WHAT DOCTOR GANDAWA HAS JUST SAID IN TRYING TO UNLOCK THE ARMED ROBBERIES PUZZLE.

AUTHORITIES MUST FIND OUT HOW THESE FIREARMS ARE LEAVING THEIR ARMOURIES. THERE ARE THOSE ROGUE SOLDIERS/POLICEMEN WHO DESERT POSTS, COMMIT ROBBERIES AND COME BACK TO THE POST. IS THIS NOT LACK OF SUPERVISION ? [ QUESTION MARK NGA ]

ZIMBABWEANS ACQUIRING WEAPONS GO THROUGH A RIGOROUS PROCEDURE AND VERY FEW PEOPLE OWN GUNS IN ZIMBABWE.

LET ME GO BACK AND SAY IT IS A WRONG MENTALITY TO THINK THAT ONLY SERVING MEMBERS OF THE DEFENCE FORCE/POLICE FORCE COMMIT ARMED ROBBERIES. FORMER MEMBERS OF BOTH SECURITY AGENTS AND CIVILIANS ALSO TEAM UP TO COMMIT ROBBERIES. CERTAIN CIVILIANS HIRE OUT THEIR LEGALLY OWNED FIREARMS TO ROBBERS.

SOME PEOPLE HAVE SAID THE MAIN DRIVER OF ROBBERIES IS LOW SALARIES TO MEMBERS OF THE ARMED FORCES.

I DO AGREE WITH THOSE WHO SAY THE LOW SALARIES TO ARMED FORCES AND LACK OF ADEQUATE SUPERVISION OF GUARD POINTS WHERE WEAPONS ARE DEPLOYED ARE THE TWO MAIN DRIVERS OF ARMED ROBBERIES.

[EAST OR WEST, HOME IS BEST]. DOCTOR GANDAWA, COME BACK HOME AND FACE THE SWEET MUSIC FOR DEFRAUDING ZIMDEF.

YOURS FAITHFULLY
CDE KUFA KWANGU ZVAROVA
[ THE BUSH LAWYER ]


Davis Phiri 7 months ago

Kkkkk

WILLIAM SONBOY CHINEMBIRI 7 months ago

IN MY LAST COMMENTARY I MISTAKENLY REFERRED TO DOCTOR GODFREY GANDAWA AS DOCTOR GODFREY MOYO. HE WAS DEPUTY MINISTER TO MUZVINAFUNDO JONATHAN MOYO IN THE MINISTRY OF HIGHER AND TERTIARY EDUCATION.


Party Cde 7 months ago

Mnangagwa is clearly more interested in acquiring as much wealth for his family as possible and securing a safe getaway location as far away from Zimbabwe and American hands as possible when it all goes down. We're doomed to have such nefarious characters in positions of power


😴 7 months ago

Chokwadi chako chinotyisa ichi kunyange chiri chokwadi 😂😂😂 Ndaitombotya kuzvinyorawo.


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